Silent tactile switches

Unlike in many cases, I found Silent Brown V2 to sound well with EnjoyPBT, on an M87 Pro.

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Cracking open a TTC Silent Brown (not sure which version) and comparing it to the Peanut Latte:

  1. The Silent Brown (SB) has the rounded bottom to the stem pole (just like the Bluish-White) vs. the more flattened of the Peanut Latte (PL)
  2. Very different spring – SB has a 16mm single stage spring, while the PL has a 22mm double stage.
  3. Very light lube, if any, on the SB, compared to a slightly more noticeable amount on the PL.

So for both of the things you talk about modding are going to be different stock for the Peanut Latte – you might not need to mod them at all, or might only need to change the spring. Definitely something to test with a few first before committing, IMO.

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Very interesting. Thank-you.

The PL seem pretty cool, stock. If only there was a way to cheaply get samples in Canada.

I feel as though the SB springs, that bottom-out at 63.5 G [16mm?] are a little heavier than is necessary. So maybe I’d start with 60 G 16mm.*

Based on your helpful details, either one would have to be significantly modified. So I might stick with the SB, which are easy to obtain in Canada.

*If the stock SB springs actuate at 45 G and bottom-out at 63.5 G, I wonder if they are slightly progressive. (That’s almost like a 15mm Spirit 63.5 G Progressive, which actuates like a 55 G spring, but bottoms-out at 63.5 G.)

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Update:

After some testing, I can tell you that TTC Silent Brown V2 are actually pretty-good stock switches.

They are fairly well-lubed from factory, making them smooth without being overlubed. I have heard that the springs aren’t as well-lubed as the PL silents, but I wouldn’t say that the SB springs are particularly noisy.

With some 3203 on the rails, and 63.5 G 15mm Spirit Supreme springs, they are firm but not-heavy. I bet you could get away with lighter / shorter springs, but the 63.5 G 15mm seem to give some margin and cushion [on the 1U keys].

[Using lighter / shorter springs seems to make them more ‘snappy’.]

So these benefit from some light customization, but don’t really need customization at all. They are office-quiet and pretty clean switches in stock form. I just think the stock springs are a little overweight.

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Hey, I ran the search.brave.com AI on “TTC Silent Brown V2” to get a summary about those switches and here is what I got. Not bad at all for artificial intelligence… :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth: Another useful tool in the bag! :nerd_face:

TTC Silent Brown V2

The TTC Silent Brown V2 is a type of tactile switch designed for both gamers and office workers who value a quiet and comfortable typing experience. Here are some key features and specifications:

  • Tactile and Silent: The Silent Brown V2 switch offers a light-medium level of resistance and a satisfying rounded tactile bump, providing a comfortable typing experience.
  • Muted Sound Profile: The switch has a muted sound profile, making it suitable for quiet environments.
  • Specifications:
    • Operating force: 45gf
    • Pre-travel: 2.0mm
    • Total travel: 4.0mm
    • Tactile force: 55gf
    • Bottom-out force: 63.5gf
  • Mounting Type: The switch is a 3-pin switch that requires plate mounting for stability.
  • Materials: The top is made of PC, the bottom is made of PA, and the stem is made of POM.
  • Spring Length: 15.6mm
  • Bottom Out: 45g
  • Travel: 3.7mm
  • Factory Lube: The switch comes with stem and spring lube.

The TTC Silent Brown V2 switch is suitable for those who prefer a quiet and tactile typing experience. It is available for purchase online and is compatible with most mechanical keyboards.

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Yes, that is pretty accurate. I think there’s also a commercial switch seller who may use AI for their website switch comparisons:

Back to the AI summary,

The SB V2 is definitely a light or light-medium, and I’d say a good deal of that ‘tactility’ is the strong spring. You can basically get away with MX Brown-class springs here.

[By contrast, even the Everglide Jade Green light-tactile benefited from aftermarket 62 G 15mm springs, as the stock 58 G were a bit light. In other words, it wanted Ergo Clear springs.]

Basically, I am switching from the 15.6mm 63.5 G spring to a 13.9mm 63.5 G spring. For the 1U keys. I am going to leave in the stock spring (lubed) for use on keys greater than 2U in size.


I wonder if you could pull details from more obscure switches with that AI tool. Especially Everglide Jade Green V2, where information is scarce. And KTT Macaron Orange, which is new.

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Almost got away from the keyboard hobby to just be happy with what I’ve got, and then the Neo Ergo showed up. So I decided to catch up on this thread :smile: Here’s the llama3.1’s (8B token version running locally) take on Silent Brown V2:

>>> Can you summarize the mechanical keyboard switch “TTC Silent Brown V2”?
The TTC Silent Brown V2 is a linear, tactile, and quiet switch designed for typing comfort. Here’s a summary of its
characteristics:

Key Features:

  1. Linear, Tactile, and Quiet: The switch provides a smooth, linear feel with a distinct bump (tactile feedback)
    when pressed all the way down.
  2. Silent Operation: Designed to be quiet and low-Profile, making it suitable for office or home environments where
    noise is a concern.
  3. Brown Switch Type: Similar to Cherry Brown switches, known for their smooth, tactile feel.

Switch Specifications:

  1. Actuation Force: 50g (approximately)
  2. Actuation Distance: 4mm
  3. Total Travel Distance: 6mm
  4. Keycap Height: Suitable for standard keycaps

The TTC Silent Brown V2 is designed to provide a comfortable typing experience while minimizing noise, making it a
popular choice among typists who value quiet and tactile feedback. Keep in mind that individual preferences may vary,
but this switch has received generally positive reviews from users and enthusiasts.

Yeah…:crazy_face:

TTC Peanut Latte is very good, even though mostly a re-color, at least you know what kind of stem shape you will get. I’ve been using them both in my new Neo Ergo and another board that is really good at being quiet. In fact, I now wish all my TTC switches had this pole shape.

The only negative thing I can mention is some inconsistency, slightly varying bottom sound, some leaf sound there but not here. Not sure if it was there in the beginning or developed with use, but nevertheless I really like them in my very quiet board. The new board is not as quiet by nature and I’m using Silent Brown V2 in them at the moment, but looking forward to try different keycap and switch combinations, in particular:

  • Lichicx Raw Silent Tactile, small or large bump. The small bump always seems to be out of stock at geon’s website. Are they sold anywhere else?
  • DK Red Velvet
  • Varmilo has a new line and their silents appear to be made by lichicx as well
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Thanks for the rundown on the PL.

I think the TTC light-tactile bumps are pretty good now, but also that the long-pole in the TTC Gold Brown Pro makes it loud.

It would be nice to have a regular-pole Gold Brown Pro, with the same materials, tight-tolerances and decent lube.

After putting modified Silent Brown V2 into a board, I find my changes to make it a bit mushy. The 63.5 G Spirit springs are nice and soft, quiet, but aren’t as poppy as the stock springs. I guess I need something in-between.

The AI report isn’t too far-off.

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Looks like Moyu Studios is working on a silent tactile with Outemu. IC over on GeekHack.

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Some new silent tactile switches I’ve run across, plus a link to the Moyu x Outemu Feather switches I mentioned before. Purchase links (at time of posting) included (and no affiliate crap b/c that’s not how I roll).

  • Moyu x Outemu Feather - I mentioned this one before, but didn’t have a purchase link, just the IC on GH. Very similar to/recolor of the Akko Penguin.
  • Outemu Wuhai Purple Jelly - Version of the Silent Yellow Jade made with POM. Most impressive thing I’ve noticed is that there’s absolutely no spring/leaf “ping” from the batch I got. Otherwise very similar to the Silent Yellow Jade. Also comes with a LED lens.
  • Outemu Anxiety - Another version of the Silent Yellow Jade/Cream Yellow, this time made with PA66. Also comes with a LED lens.
  • Kinetic Labs x Haimu Turtle - New one I just discovered today (but TG has already reviewed it). Second silent tactile with an LED diffuser from Haimu, and this time much easier to get in the US (vs. the GSquare Rem V1, which I only found on AE and zFrontier, and looks to be sold out at this point).

Of these, the Purple Jelly is thus far my favorite, combining most of the best things about Outemu silent tactile switches I enjoy (high tactility, low noise, lack of ping, LED condenser).

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